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    Chris

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    Re: Show me the MONEY!!!

    Post  Chris on August 19th 2011, 2:17 am

    Remember too that these are estimates. I'm sure I took longer to do this stuff the first time around than I do now. For instance, the site was a beta prior to me coming aboard so I had to start from scratch with most of the players. That takes time.
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    Chitown599

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    Re: Show me the MONEY!!!

    Post  Chitown599 on August 19th 2011, 8:01 am

    Dave, years ago you may have had a point about where the money was going, but not today. Everything the BOD does is an open book. They deny no one who asks to look at the books, or anything else.
    As for what they do, is not a job, well yes it is. You go to any free facilities for the handicap, or any other organization, the staff members will tell you what they do is a job, volunteering or not.
    What Adam and the rest of the BOD, as well as the AD's do are jobs as well. I am sure that Adams hobby is to be on the phone countless hours, listening to people whining about where they were placed in a division, or defusing problems. Those don't sound like hobbies to me. And since they do get paid, it is a job. They do a lot of thankless things behind the scenes that nobody seems to realize. It's not easy running a league of any size, let alone the size of the MMDL. So on this subject, I do back the MMDL. Maybe you should try going to a BOD meeting and see how it is first hand. While there ask to see the books. I am sure you would be surprised. Just a thought.

    Skiz

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    Re: Show me the MONEY!!!

    Post  Skiz on August 19th 2011, 9:34 am

    believe me, id rather just darts than be bothered by what is usually drunk people acting stupid with darts. I only got involved because i saw a good thing be00ing ruined by two old board members who were abusing the league with a my mentality. I wanted the MMDL to be great again, so i decided to get involved to try to help it get there. The money makes the sacrifice of time, sting a little less. I work 60+ hrs a week, teach 2 nights a week, darts one night a week, mix in OT and i have very little time at home. With three little ones, the MMDL crap seems not worth it alot of the time. So making a little off of it is a small reward considering i make double the amount most weeks just working my day job.

    BTW the transparency can be found on the website too. Here is a link to the 990 for the league. http://www.mmdl.org/view/filings

    dwalsh

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    Re: Show me the MONEY!!!

    Post  dwalsh on August 19th 2011, 11:17 am

    Why do you guys fall for Dave's bullshit? Enjoy the PDL dAVE,YOU KNOW,THE LEAGUE YOU BLASTED THE LAST TIME YOU WORE OUT YOUR WELCOME.
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    EyesOfTheWorld
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    Re: Show me the MONEY!!!

    Post  EyesOfTheWorld on August 19th 2011, 12:18 pm

    Different league. That old one was dismantled. Clifford fixed it, restructerd it, and brought integrity back to it. It's an entirely different entity than the one we left in 2003. The people who handled the books back then are no longer involved, nor is their bar. EVERY team in the new league is closer to us by about :40 minutes, the sponsor fee is cheaper, the awards are better and more numerous, AND you get to play more darts. They also let me choose the division that I want to play in. They couldn't be MORE accomodating. The MMDL could learn a lot about how to handle such an important team as mine. Laughing
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    EyesOfTheWorld
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    Re: Show me the MONEY!!!

    Post  EyesOfTheWorld on August 19th 2011, 12:32 pm

    And just beacuse something is "transparent" doesn't mean you have to agree with it. The government can tell me where they spend all their money too, it doesn't mean they're spending it right. $30,000 for Salaries? Overpaid. $80,000 in "other expenses"? What the hell is that supposed to mean? Where can i find the link detailing exactly where every penny goes so that I can pick that apart too? Have you SEEN the awards that Doublecork gives out? It's ridiculous. Our other team just won the Division 1A Championship last season. Their trophy is almost as big as the Stanley Cup, and they only had to win two rounds of playoffs to get it. Not only that, but they got to STAY in that division again this season to hopefully get ANOTHER ONE, instead of getting moved up. Pretty sweet.

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