OCTOBER 5th, 2011
Interesting question of the week from a call I got last night: If the scorekeeper calls the score and the darts subsequently fall out does the score count?
What's your answer?
-Mark Clifford
EyesOfTheWorld wrote:I have always heard that if AFTER the third dart is thrown, and the scorer acnowledges the darts in the board, then the darts fall out as the player is walking towards the line then the darts count. If the darts fall out BEFORE the complete turn is over, or fall out quick enough that the scorer couldn't verify the score, then they do not count. After the third dart is thrown, the darts must be stuck in the board long enough for the scorer to confirm (which should only be about 2 or 3 seconds).
You're right, it counts. The scorekeeper has called the score which can't be done until all darts have been thrown and the score stands. Thought there might be some disagreement or at least another viewpoint...
It's not specified in the rules, though. Don't really think it needs to be.
-Mark Clifford
It's funny that THIS question was asked almost a year ago to the day. Maybe the rest of the league needs to be informed of this. We had a situation tonight that mirrored this exactly.
In the 3rd game of the final game of the night (Cricket Singles - Eamon VS Mike Mac), during the 2nd turn of the final leg, Eamon threw a 19, a 5, and a 'bounce out' 19 that landed on the floor. Eamon casually walked up to the board, picked up his dart on the floor, pulled the dart in the 5 out, and as he went to pull out the 19, it fell out. It was CLEARLY a 19, had clearly been in the board long enough for him to WALK up to the board, was in there for at least enough time to pick up the dart on the floor AND remove the other dart. ABSOLUTELY should have counted, without a doubt. There was no 'mad rush' to the line to go grab a barely dangling dart. The whole process was incredibly liesurely as the dart was DEFINITELY in there long enough for the scorer to acnowlwedge it as Eamon was pulling his other dart from the board and picking up the dart from the floor. Had Eamon pulled the 19 FIRST, instead of tending to the other 2, it wouldn't even have been an issue. Unfortunately he didn't, and apparently the 10 seconds that had gone by weren't enough for the scorekeeper (which was the AWAY team who was ALREADY down 3-5 on the night, and who have already sustained TWO 0-8 beatings at the hands of the other 2 dominant teams in the division). In any case, their whole team was ADAMANT that it didn't count. My team, (which now consists of just 2 of us, me & Eamon, because in normal fashion, everyone left after their games were over, and they knew there was no chance for an OT), vehimitley disagrees. I KNOW this 19 is RIGHTFULLY supposed to count. In any case, because, in essence, this is really a meaningless game (though TECHNICALLY it ISN'T), realistically, we've ALREADY won the match at 5-2, we're getting the WIN regardless, and even though we are completely right in this instance, I am willing to "give it to them". Complete fucking bullshit as far as I'm concerned, and absolutely bushleague, and though I protested with some F-Bombs, it was early enough in the game to allow them to cheat and us to STILL come back for the win, so ulimately I relented and backed dowm. In the end, that is exactly what happened. Eamon stepped up and shot lights out, while Mike Mac's game REALLY took a turn for the worse. Probably because one of his teammates wouldn't let it go and continued to try and have an argument with me even AFTER I agreed to let them have their bullshit call. Unfortunately, the night ended on a very sour note with a lot of bad blood, insults being exchanged on both sides, and arguments being turned away from darts into personal attacks. In the end, we won the contraversial game in question that we got screwed in and took a 6-2 victory to go to 5-0 which was great. Justice was served.
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